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	<title>Comments on: A Simple but Challenging Game: Part II</title>
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		<title>By: Rock-Paper-Scissors Without the Luck &#171; Nerd Wisdom</title>
		<link>http://nerdwisdom.com/2007/08/15/a-simple-but-challenging-game-part-ii/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rock-Paper-Scissors Without the Luck &#171; Nerd Wisdom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 02:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  As I&#8217;ve mentioned before (click here for his &#8220;Duke and Pawn&#8221; game, or click here for a more game-theoretical type of game), my son Adam enjoys designing games. Here&#8217;s a game he designed, with very simple rules but [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  As I&#8217;ve mentioned before (click here for his &#8220;Duke and Pawn&#8221; game, or click here for a more game-theoretical type of game), my son Adam enjoys designing games. Here&#8217;s a game he designed, with very simple rules but [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Simple but Challenging Game, Part I &#171; Nerd Wisdom</title>
		<link>http://nerdwisdom.com/2007/08/15/a-simple-but-challenging-game-part-ii/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Simple but Challenging Game, Part I &#171; Nerd Wisdom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] tell you more in a later post, but for now why don&#8217;t you think about [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Duke and Pawn Endgames &#171; Nerd Wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Duke and Pawn Endgames &#171; Nerd Wisdom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I mentioned in an earlier post, my son Adam likes to design games, and he designed this very clever variant of the King and Pawn [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: On Rationality &#171; Nerd Wisdom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[On Rationality &#171; Nerd Wisdom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 05:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  I want to expand a bit on what I said previously in &#8220;A Simple But Challenging Game: Part II, this time focusing on Rosenthal&#8217;s Centipede Game. To remind you of the rules, in that game [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  I want to expand a bit on what I said previously in &#8220;A Simple But Challenging Game: Part II, this time focusing on Rosenthal&#8217;s Centipede Game. To remind you of the rules, in that game [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Emin Martinian</title>
		<link>http://nerdwisdom.com/2007/08/15/a-simple-but-challenging-game-part-ii/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emin Martinian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting game. I think that leaving probabilistic strategies out may be the cause of the counterintuitive result you are getting. I haven&#039;t done the game theory analysis, but I suspect that the problem with the first player passing is that the second player will interpret it as a sign of weakness and immediately challenge. Thus the first player might as well challenge immediately so as to remove any optionality from the second player.

If you allowed probabilistic strategies, then the first player would have the option of occasionally passing when he has a strong hand so that he can also pass when he has a weak hand without giving away that he has a weak hand. Basically, probabilistic strategies allow bluffing. 

Another interesting variation might be to add risk aversion. That is instead of the goal being to maximize expected wealth, the goal could be to maximize expected wealth minus standard deviation of wealth.

In any case, it&#039;s an interesting post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting game. I think that leaving probabilistic strategies out may be the cause of the counterintuitive result you are getting. I haven&#8217;t done the game theory analysis, but I suspect that the problem with the first player passing is that the second player will interpret it as a sign of weakness and immediately challenge. Thus the first player might as well challenge immediately so as to remove any optionality from the second player.</p>
<p>If you allowed probabilistic strategies, then the first player would have the option of occasionally passing when he has a strong hand so that he can also pass when he has a weak hand without giving away that he has a weak hand. Basically, probabilistic strategies allow bluffing. </p>
<p>Another interesting variation might be to add risk aversion. That is instead of the goal being to maximize expected wealth, the goal could be to maximize expected wealth minus standard deviation of wealth.</p>
<p>In any case, it&#8217;s an interesting post.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I found your website a few days ago and it&#039;s great!

Another simple problem (not game theory) I found intriguing is 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stanford.edu/~cover/papers/paper73.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; this one &lt;/a&gt; on Tom Cover&#039;s website.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your website a few days ago and it&#8217;s great!</p>
<p>Another simple problem (not game theory) I found intriguing is<br />
<a href="http://www.stanford.edu/~cover/papers/paper73.pdf" rel="nofollow"> this one </a> on Tom Cover&#8217;s website.</p>
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